Curse

ogami_ito · Jun 30, 2006, 09:31 AM // 09:31

I have not tried it out yet...will when I get home tonight . If anyone has looked into this, please advice:

Dagger 13
Restoration 12
Crit: the rest

AoD
GPS
Horns
Falling
Twisting
VENGFULL WEAPON
Dash/running skill
(not in alliance battle) Flesh of My Flesh /

(if in alliance battle or Fort Aspenwood) well...there is so much goodness to choose from:

Mend body and soul gives 70 health and u loose a condition if there are spirits in the area (often are)
If you have those -1regen/+1e on hit mod daggers, then Weapon of Warding is going to be really good with 50% block and +4 health regen for 10 seconds SPAMABLE! (recharge of 5sec)
And Weapon of Shadow causes 3 seconds of blindnes on hit. (I think Weapon of Warding would be better at the start of an attack run, but Weapon of Shadow just has 1 sec cast time)
Or just add another dagger attack.

The key here is Vengfull weapon. Man this looks too good to be true. Steal 60 health on hit, 5 e, and 3 sec cool-down.

If a warrior hits you 10 times in about 13 seconds (with say, an ax or sword with 1.33 attack rate), they would have build up at least 13 strikes. You can cast this about 4 times in 13 seconds. Doing 240 damage and healing your self of that amount. Only trick is to cast it in between warriors attacks and still attack yourself. Easy if warrior uses hammer.

And the spell "the next time target ally takes damage from foe," that means works against spells and arrows, right?

This seems too good to be true. Am I missing something.

ogami_ito · Jun 30, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53

And the PvE varient:

Daggers 13
Rest spread between critical, Deadly arts, and Resoration (should be 8-10 each I believe, with crit at the lowest of these three

Assassin's Promise
[here any attack set: Black Lotus Strike> Twisting Fangs. Or Black Mantis Strike>Jungle Strike > Twisting Fangs (but that might be too much energy), or simple Disrupting Strike>whatever 5e off-hand > Twisting Fangs]
Weapon of Shadow
Signet of Shadow
Some shadowstep skill
Flesh of My Flesh

Cast Weapon of Shadows. You put Assassin's Promiss on mob (that's my favorite elite BTW) . If you don't have the +1e/hit daggers, then probably best to use Black Lotus Strike>Twisting. Get hit once by enemy. Enemy is blinded for 3 seconds. Use signet to do around 65 energy-free damage.. Mob dies. All skills are recharged and u have near full energy.

Lambentviper · Jun 30, 2006, 09:35 PM // 21:35

looks like the same copy of the AoD-GPS craze except a secondary skill applied to its optional slot.

But its nice, because now you can finish off a target like another assassin instantly as they attack back

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 01, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

hey there may be an AoD GPS craze but I can do it better than JOOOOO!

Serious my build is modded AoD build

ogami_ito · Jul 01, 2006, 09:58 AM // 09:58

Well, the main set is the same. I just really love AoD for PvP. I have found that other sets don't do enough damage and damage is what the assassin HAS TO BE about. If the sin is not doing lots of damage in the first 5 seconds of attack to a target, then its not really doing the job. But you could use other stuff like BLS with a hex. Or do a three strike + hex combo like Caltrops+Aod+Golden Lotus Strike+Jungle Strike+twisting.

ogami_ito · Jul 01, 2006, 10:02 AM // 10:02

The whole point is , vengful weapon heals the sin while contributing to the sin's main role...to do damage. And does so in a spamable 5e way. So you can start an attack set off and probably hit vengfull weapon just before the last dual strike. If the target is attacking you, you have healed 120 hits and he has taken another 120 damage. That's too good to be true.

Maybe it is. In truth, I have not tried it yet...my internet was down last night. Here in China, you have to prepay for all services because the Man does not trust us to pay for services already rendered. So my connection was down when I got home. bastards. Tonight I will try it.

ogami_ito · Jul 01, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

OK. Disregard this post. Vengfull Weapon and Weapon of Shadow seem to no longer exist.

Lambentviper · Jul 01, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogami_ito

OK. Disregard this post. Vengfull Weapon and Weapon of Shadow seem to no longer exist.

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huh? what happened to them? Did your Man ban them from Guild Wars: CHina?

Kyle · Jul 01, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

im pretty sure vengefull weapon is still there. Think ive heard of it. Havn't heard of this shadow one though.

yeah what happened to them?

jesh · Jul 01, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Vengeful weapon is still around, and it is nice. The only catch is that your target has to be attacking you. I don't know about you, but as a caster I'm not going to try to fend you off with my wand. Now another player on the opposing team might try to land a hit on you, and it would do its role, just...
The weakness of the skill is that you can't really direct where the damage goes. Whoever lands a hit on you first is the victim. *shrug*

Azaril000 · Jul 01, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Hmm might be just me, but if your trying to get decent health regen when your attacking, why not use the more convenient, non spammable, way.

By way, i mean Vigorous Spirit and/or Live Vicariously and/or Way of perfection. Sure it doesnt give one big chunck of hp back, but its a continuous affect, so it adds up very quickly. Unless Im mistaken, the weapon spells only last for "next attack".

But in some way I can see different combo's of ritualist weapon spells being useful. Btw Nightmare weapon can be bought from such places as Maatu keep.

ogami_ito · Jul 02, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

I'm telling u...I switched to A/Rt and went to learn the skill at several different mainland trainers and it was not there.

Weapon of Shadow not there either.

And I don't want to have two monk enchants to gain health only when attacking.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 02, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52

go to cavalon or HzH? all skills are at those traders, not at kaineng like everyone seems to think, I wanted to get I think it was Golden Phoenix strike and I had to wait until like maatu keep before I could get those skillz X( not fun, I wub my golden combo.

ogami_ito · Jul 02, 2006, 04:06 AM // 04:06

Tried Maatu Keep. Not there. Tried House of Hotzein or whatever. Not there. I think I will ask guys on the Ritualist board if they are in the game or not.

Nightmare weapon may be something to consider though. With 15 dagger, you can probably keep someone interupted for 8 seconds straight

ogami_ito · Jul 02, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11

^^^ "Nightmare weapon may be something to consider though. With 15 dagger, you can probably keep someone interupted for 8 seconds straight"

Sorry, I meant Wailing Weapon. And i didn't realize that the skill description says when attacking attacking foes. Still...Ian excellent way to shut down melee fighters.

Bloodied Blade · Jul 02, 2006, 04:23 AM // 04:23

Weapon of Shadow or whatever it is still exists. Just unlock it in PvP then buy it from a skill trainer (skills unlocked in any manner can be purchased in pve from any trainer). Weapon of Shadow was a skill that I was considering using to help solo 55 or spirit bond farm. As of this moment, the use of weapon of shadow in monk farming is my idea (and it was mine like a week after factions came out too).

It's a 3 second blind once you're struck. That means that it blinds whatever hit you for their next ~1-2 attacks (1 if hammer, 2 if anything else), making it perfect for farming with SoJ.

I would really like to see how this works out in pvp vs the whammos who think they are uber leet (what's a hex? what's a condition? what is this "empathy" you speak of? nothing can beat my uber mending!)

Anyway, good luck with finding a weapon spell that fits your build. I've been running a Palm Strike build something like:

Palm Strike
Horns
Spider
Fangs
Shadow Refuge
Shroud of Distress (seriously, this thing is AMAZING in pvp, I couldn't believe it)
Death's Charge
Res Sig

Basically Shroud is there because you need some form of defense for the whammo's Eviscerate --> Executioner's Strike combo. After that, he's dead, end of story. Bleed from fangs stops his mending regen, which isn't really saying something. 5 degen from poison... doom on a stick.

Sometimes I use a second Palm Strike when they inevitably try to run after they see their health plummet to 20 and start falling to 15, 10, 5, 2, 0. Basically it somehow has a RANGE to it (longer than my actual weapon range, since I can't hit kiters but I can use Palm Strike on them), and ~78 non-resistable dmg kills them w/deep wound. I fought a warrior that used Frenzy for their spike... I had a deep wound on him and he was at half hp... Palm Strike = 156 dmg. I laughed.

I guess Weapon of Shadow would OWN as a replacement for Shroud of Distress though, since it blinds them when they hit you, even if a ranger uses an arrow, the ranger gets blinded.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 02, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07

I still don't get how DW enhances your attacks, I only thought it reduced their healing by 33% X.X

Edit: wootsauce Ministry of Knowledge

Lord Deathknight · Jul 02, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

The best way to check on skills and what they have is to goto the Preist of Balthazar, As a PvE'er its the best way to see what caps I have not gotton.

Both skills are listed there: Vengfull Weapon and Weapon of Shadow